question: is there evidence that Jesus existed outside the bible?
(the below is taken from www.studylight.org)
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Typically when this question is asked, the person asking qualifies
the question with "outside of the Bible." We do not grant this idea
that the Bible cannot be considered a source of evidence for the
existence of Jesus. The New Testament contains hundreds of references
to Jesus Christ. There are those who date the writing of the Gospels in
the second century A.D., 100+ years after Jesus' death. Even if this is
the case (which we strongly dispute), in terms of ancient evidences,
writings less than 200 years after events took place are considered
very reliable evidences. Further, the vast majority of scholars
(Christian and non-Christian) will grant that the Epistles of Paul (at
least some of them) were in fact written by Paul in the middle of the
first century A.D., less than 40 years after Jesus' death. In terms of
ancient manuscript evidence, this is extraordinarily strong proof of
the existence of a man named Jesus in Israel in the early first century
A.D.
It is also important to recognize that in 70 A.D., the
Romans invaded and destroyed Jerusalem and most of Israel, slaughtering
its inhabitants. Entire cities were literally burned to the ground! We
should not be surprised, then, if much evidence of Jesus' existence was
destroyed. Many of the eye-witnesses of Jesus would have been killed.
These facts likely limited the amount of eyewitness testimony of Jesus
that survived.
Considering the fact that Jesus' ministry was
largely confined to a relatively unimportant backwater area in a small
corner of the Roman Empire, a surprising amount of information about
Jesus can be drawn from secular historical sources. Some of the more
important historical evidences of Jesus include the following:
The
first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate
historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious "Christians "
("named after Christus" which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under
Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. Suetonius, chief secretary
to Emperor Hadrian, wrote that there was a man named Chrestus (or
Christ) who lived during the first century (Annals 15.44 ).
Flavius
Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he
refers to James, "the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ". There
is a controversial verse (18:3) that says, "Now there was about this
time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was
one who wrought surprising feats. . . . He was [the] Christ . . . he
appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had
foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him."
One version reads, "At this time there was a wise man named Jesus. His
conduct was good and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people
from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate
condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who became his
disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had
appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was
alive; accordingly he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the
prophets have recounted wonders."
Julius Africanus quotes
the historian Thallus in a discussion of the darkness which followed
the crucifixion of Christ (Extant Writings, 18).
Pliny the
Younger, in Letters 10:96, recorded early Christian worship practices
including the fact that Christians worshiped Jesus as God and were very
ethical, and includes a reference the love feast and Lord's Supper.
The
Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 43a) confirms Jesus' crucifixion on the
eve of Passover, and the accusations against Christ of practicing
sorcery and encouraging Jewish apostasy.
Lucian of Samosata
was a second-century Greek writer who admits that Jesus was worshiped
by Christians, introduced new teachings, and was crucified for them.
His said that Jesus' teachings included the brotherhood of believers,
the importance of conversion, and the importance of denying other gods.
Christians lived according to Jesus' laws, believed themselves immortal
and were characterized by contempt for death, voluntary self-devotion,
and renunciation of material goods.
Mara Bar-Serapion
confirms that Jesus was thought to be a wise and virtuous man, was
considered by many to be the king of Israel, was put to death by the
Jews, and lived on in the teachings of his followers.
Then
we have all the Gnostic writings (The Gospel of Truth, The Apocryphon
of John, The Gospel of Thomas, The Treatise on Resurrection, etc.) that
all mention Jesus.
In fact, we can almost reconstruct the
gospel just from early non-Christian sources: Jesus was called the
Christ (Josephus), did "magic", led Israel into new teachings, and was
hanged on Passover for them (Babylonian Talmud) in Judea (Tacitus), but
claimed to be God and would return (Eliezar), which his followers
believed - worshipping Him as God (Pliny the Younger).
In
conclusion, we believe there is overwhelming evidence for the existence
of Jesus Christ, both in secular and Biblical history. Perhaps the
greatest evidence that Jesus did exist is the fact that literally
thousands of Christians in the first century A.D., including the 12
apostles, were willing to give their lives as martyrs for Jesus Christ.
People will die for what they believe to be true, but no one will die
for what they know to be a lie.
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